With a strong focus on speculation and material narratives, this episode starts with unicorns and ends on the note of "All watched over by Machines of loving Grace". With bits of her industry insights scattered throughout, Kathie shares some of the thoughts she has developed during her time at the Design Interactions Course at the RCA and her navigation of Fashion today.

As feminist practitioner and researcher, this episode introduces Marloes’ work and topics such as the female gaze, the value of practice as research and methods of embodiment in artistic practice.

Curator & Design-researcher Kat Thiel touches upon topics such as Co-botics, alternative ways to think digital fashion and the the need to update our infrastructure of fashion making - in industry as in education .


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